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OK, y'know what needs to stop happening, like right freaking now?

People who never played a game past R/B (and even some longtime players nurse this ridiculous notion), wait make that ANYONE, saying they should stop making new pokemon.

They make about 100 to 150ish new pokemon a generation. I think they're moving way too slow. Especially with us moving into the Wi-Fi land with the rest of Nintendo's biggies.

Reason #1 There's too many pokemon to remember!

Y'know what, you don't need to remember shit. Firstly, pokemon is not rocketo-dan science, yellow pokemon *TEND* to be Electric typed, Purple pokemon *TEND* to be Poison-typed, Blue pokemon *TEND* to be Water-typed. You see what I'm saying? Pokemon follows a relatively simple color-coding method. Even pokemon that aren't their type-related color (such as Corsola or Beedrill) are generally painfully easy to deduce (Corsola is obviously a piece of coral, where is that found? Beedrill is very clearly A BEE). Pokemon IS, for the most part, based on real-life animals. Barring that, this game is not so intense so that the moment you step out of Pallet Town there comes a phalanx of Spearow who will devour you and positively Fury-Attack-Rape your new pokemon if you don't know what level Pidgey evolves. In fact, the game is probably more fun the less you know about it, that way when something evolves after a battle, it is ACTUALLY a surprise and not something you-albeit tediously-spent the past hour or so trying to do. New attacks are now reviewable, so it isn't like RBY when Vulpix decided it wanted to learn Fire Spin at lv. 42, and you figure it must be even more powerful than that lv. 35-learned Flamethrower...and you have no way of knowing one way or another...you'd assume since it's such a late-game technique that it'd be good...and you'd be wrong. As it levels up and tries to learn a new ability, or by viewing the status screen: you can easily view statistical information regarding type, accuracy, and base power, as well as the other moves in your repertoire so you can make an informed decision about keeping an ability. It's not like you need to know it ahead of time to make a trip to the Move Deleter or something, barring the use of HMs. With Heart Scales and Big Mushrooms, nothing is lost forever...usually. It's never been dirt-easier to determine pokemon type on the fly. Water pokemon live in the sea, Bug and Grass types generally hang out in forests, Normal and Flying types tend to scurry about in fields kicking up sand and shit. You get the idea. No one needs a Doctorate in Pokeology (like I do) to understand what a pokemon is/does. Even if none of this were so, we will have Wi-Fi soon, there will be someone you can talk to, like me for instance, who went out of his nerdy nerd life to buy every guide they ever put out on the subject, who would be happy to answer any question you have no matter how mundane. If you don't like it, don't play. But it's silly for a successful multi-million dollar franchise to stay rooted in your childhood, when it stands to and continues to expand it's dynasty and make video game history.

Reason #2 Original 151 r teh bestzors loooolololol 111!!!!

Blatant stupidity, mixed with a touch of personal opinion. No they were not, they weren't then, and they aren't now. There will never be a "bestzors". Each region or game generation has quirks, props, and problems with it. Yes, anyone who ever played R/B in the late nineties or even shortly thereafter remember some indescribable feeling that is entirely different than any other version of pokemon can produce. It was ground-breaking, it was unique, it attracted more universal appeal than just about any other gaming genre in terms of age, gender, location, and gaming ability. Most importantly, we had not yet seen anything of it's kind before. Does anyone remember the fact that Special used to be one stat? Mewtwo with Rest, Barrier, Amnesia, Psychic or about a dozen variations substituting Barrier for Ice Beam/Thunderbolt? Good lord, remember the horrible-team-rape-combo of a Slowbro with Rest, Thunder Wave, Amnesia, and Surf? The ole' standby Tobybro? Yeah that was fun having my entire team decimated by a 13 year old's Slowbro, unable to stop him once the combo gets going, as he totes his so-called "|337 skills". While I mourned the loss of Gyarados and Articuno's special stats, they have as of late, more than made up for their once great power. If anything, it gave pokemon like Hitmonchan a new lease on life! Now, not every single pokemon I take out in front of Mewtwo, that resists Psychic or not, will die by default. Guess what, those R/B/Y days are over, and I am GLAD to see them go. Just because we all had a great time in the old games, doesn't mean that the new ones can be different, as good, or even better. Accept change and renewal, for it is only natural. Besides out of the original 150, we used maybe 40 of them. If that. Those fights were bound to get boring. Even now, there are OU pokes. People whined about Colosseum and XD "forcing" them to use specific pokemon as opposed to going out, finding pokemon you know that bring the death, and throwing them into the ring. Not taking into account the possibility that the game might be TOUGHER or MORE CHALLENGING if you were forced to use pokemon outside of your favorites/specialty. Must be hard to fight with lower than Tier 3 pokemon, too bad I will not shed a tear for thou most whiny of legendary-abusing n00bs. They took things I liked out of the old gen that they should have kept, like Earl's Academy (easy Pokedex!), Challenge Cup, Gym Leader Castle complete with prizes, and Minigames. The old days were fun, it got old as it (and everything eventually) is wont to do, there will always be a need to refresh the series, so long as people buy the games, they will continue to make more. As long as they do, I will be there to buy them. Because I am the fan who, does not care where they take it, because he is along for the ride because he chooses to be, and likes what he has seen thus far. Don't continue to ride on the train if it no longer stops where you want to be.

Reason #3 Now everyone will be running around with "sharked" pokes/It's too hard to raise pokemon the legit way!

Who the eff uses a Gameshark anymore. That is so 1999. Yes there is an Action Replay for the DS. But as a user and a fan of it, I can tell you from experience, Nintendo does not like cheaters. In the olden days I was too making my own pokemon (ArcanineswithGlareandFireSpinFTW). Of course, in my naivete, I didn't realize what a perversion of the true game this was. I learned this easily one day when a boy with a Moltres named "Phoenix" showed up with 999 in everything. It took my entire 6-pokemon team to maybe get him down to half health. I remember it involved Explosion and he didn't directly attack too much. Now I've participated in one or two Nintendo tournaments (in the R/B/Y days) with pokemon I've actually raised. It's more fulfilling in the end, even if you get pwned like I did. I took the best I had, raised it the best I could, and in the end they pulled a cheap Mew with Swift/Double-Team/Swords Dance/Rest. I did not have the hindsight to bring a Ghost type like other people who went after and learned from my battle. Yes, losing brings many lessons. How much fun is it if there's no challenge? You should be able to breed deathsquads, yet people want a harder game? What's it really going to take? The A.I. in Emerald's Battle Frontier, or Collosseum and XD's Orre Colosseum is not completely redonkulous, I assure you. If you make a mistake, the computer WILL jump all over you and send you packing. That's no joke. Try to use a lv. 100 Celebi or a Mew you caught on Route 2 with Psycho Boost. I'll be awaiting your inevitable disappointment when you realize you can't bring that to any Colosseum or big-time battle. Such as Wi-Fi. It seems like the people who don't cheat seem to fear it a lot, take it from someone who works on both sides of the fence, knows both ways to go. Fear not, for the 999 stat will never see the light of day on this or any other gen to follow.

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Currently you have the ability to obtain tons of exp and cash prizes in Pokemon Colosseum's Story Mode Colosseums. The levels are preset, and you can fight from Phenac to Deep Colosseums, all the while having 1.5 experience. Utilizing R/S EV Secret Base setup, or FR/LG's no-clock Pokerus abusing trick, and Emerald's Everstone-breeding aide and ingame IV calculator...Getting powerful pokemon of appropriate nature, stats, abilities, genders, and egg moves, have NEVER been easier. The problem therein, is that you have to own basically all the games. Both Gamecube versions, Pokemon Box helps a TON, R/S (probably both versions, or one and Emerald), and FR or LG. Which is a lot for the average fan. But with Wi-Fi trading, this opens new possibilities. Like trading your pokemon for assistance to other people, who then buff them up. Either with held items, or vitamins. Or even breed you decently IVed eggs. Basically, Colosseum is for leveling, XD is for pokecoupons, R/S is for EVs, FR/LG is for EVs, Emerald is for EVs/breeding. Not to mention the cash prizes you get from Colosseum Challenges. Deep Colosseum breaks the bank, Miror B's challenge ends with you getting 20,448 in cash, PRE-AMULET COIN. Y'know what that's good for? Oh vitamins, TMs, and healing items or anything-damn-else-you-need. Not to mention that you'll be facing lv. 80 lower forms and mid-high lv. 60s, with the Lucky Egg + traded EXP, that turns out to be QUITE A BIT of experience for very little effort. Y'know what you could also do? Abuse Mt. Battle. Go to whatever area has the leveled pokes you want to challenge/meets the level of the pokemon you're trying to raise (there's 10 levels, from the lowest to pretty damn high, you'll find what you're looking for), get pokecoupons. Y'know what you do with a lot of pokecoupons? Buy rare-as-shit items like Leftovers or Choice Band, or buy the death-berries Salac, Liechi, and Petaya. Sure it takes time, but no more than any other RPG. Cutting corners by use of Lucky Egg (reasonably to easily obtain in Pokemon XD, or by a horrifyingly rare Chansey held item in FR/LG) + traded EXP, and Macho Bracing EV training, and getting breeding-savvy with Emerald, makes the excuse that it's too hard...just whiny. Especially now that we'll all be linked up come the 4th gen? They'll be people such as me, who can HELP YOU. Whether that be teaching, rare items, berries, TMs, evolution items, eggs of pokes you don't have in your game? It's only been getting better, people, but even I couldn't see it clearly at first. Going back to how limited you were in R/B, vs. what we have now? Let's just say I had a good past, I'm loving the present but I've got my eyes on the horizon anxiously awaiting what's to come.
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ammchan
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Time:2006-08-03 02:40 pm (UTC)
I definitely agree. At first I was one of the "Original 151 r teh bestzors loooolololol 111!!!!" people, and I didn't like the new Pokemon.

But then I gave it a chance and you know what? I can't WAIT for the new Pokemon in Diamond and Pearl. I actually enjoy new Pokemon games, and am really looking forward to the DS ones because you know, for once I'm not going to know exactly how to do everything in the game before it starts.

It'll be fun, and I agree they are moving wayy too slow.

That was the best rant I've read in a while, and it was about Pokemon <3 How refreshing.

Luvs!
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staff_of_truth
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Time:2006-08-03 04:34 pm (UTC)
I love the Pokemon from the other games, even though I am a huge G/S fan. ::Huggles Breloom in particular::
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tenchikoi_76
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Time:2006-08-03 04:55 pm (UTC)
I think I'm in love.....*bows*
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weaseldog_ltg09
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Time:2006-08-04 05:00 am (UTC)
How very true!

I mean, I'm very comfortable with the pace that my Pokemon develop at, and I don't really even take advantage of half the things you mentioned towards the end. And with the coming of Diamond/Pearl, I'm also certain that training will become even easier.
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(Anonymous)
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Time:2006-12-31 04:41 pm (UTC)
I have to diasgree to a certain extent. I'm not saying there aren't Pokemon from each generation that I love. I like Noctowl, Cyndaquil, Breloom, Swellow, Blaziken, etc, and I understand the value in adding more Pokemon. What I *would* like is for GameFreak to focus a little less on making new Pokemon, and little more on other parts of the games that need attention. I would really, really, really, like to see a game that explores a new region, but also lets you re-explore one or two of the others. I would like to see them focus on a way to get more of the old Pokemon in(thankfully, they are doing this with D/P). One of the main reasons why I didn't like R/S, was because you had to use an Action Replay or all sorts of trading to get older Pokemon.

So I'm not saying stop making new Pokemon, I'm just saying they don't need to churn out this many in rapid succession.
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